“He was a little squirt!” Smith tells FTBL with a laugh. 

“Tommy was one of a number of boys with talent but at 10 years old, Tom was the youngest in the group.

“I’ve always liked players who can dribble and Tommy Rogic was in that bracket. 

“He had a nice drop of the shoulder so we expanded on his technique. 

“And he had that confidence," Smith says of the Celtic man. 

“He wouldn’t hesitate to take a player on."

From squirt to Bhoy, Rogic the man-mountain has become a modern-day Celtic great. 

Back in 2003, Smith was coaching Canberra’s elite juniors, and Rogic’s skill struck a chord with the super coach.

In 2011, Smith nominated the then 18-year-old for the Nike Chance global event in London. 

Rogic, who’d seemingly missed the A-League contract boat, sailed through heats in Australia (alongside Kiwi international Tom Doyle). 

And Rogic impressed so much in London, he won a spot at the Nike Academy. 

Work permit issues scuppered Rogic’s career after the Nike academy. 

But a stint in the A-League and a national team call up was the platform for a move to Celtic by 2013.

“Celtic was the perfect fit at the time,” adds Smith, who’s coaching resume spans five decades across Australian technical roles, the A-League, England, and in Malaysia. 

“To get the most out of him [Rogic] he needed to be in a team that was going to be dominant rather than dominated.”

Smith suggests Rogic’s next move - if indeed there is one away from Celtic - would be to a team that has more of the ball rather than one that is battling in the lower end of a table. 

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“It’d be a great circle to complete to have Tommy come back to the A-League when he’s older,” adds Smith, who has also coached A-League club Perth Glory.

But for now, the A-League and Canberra remain tantalizingly close after almost 13 years since the capital first dipped its toes in the A-League bid process. 

Smith has a strong bond with Canberra having lived and worked there most of his life. 

And he wants to find the next Rogic, George Timotheou or Ned Zelic. 

So naturally, Smith is on board with Canberra’s bid for the A-League.

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His role spans player development and coaching in the community. 

“Every time I speak with the guys behind the Canberra bid [Michael Caggiano and Bede Gahan] you put the phone down and feel inspired,” says Smith, a long-time Canberran. 

Smith says it’s all about the community when it comes to Canberra. 

That will be key to Canberra’s success in the A-League. 
 
“There are a lot of people here and in surrounding districts who’d like to see football in the capital city. 
 
“It will stimulate local fans. And there are so many more participants than ever before.

“And the population, like many parts of Australia, could double in 20 years because there’s enough space to expand.” 

The English-born Australian Smith played semi-professional in England's Isthmian League.

“I was a good passer and dribbler, but was underpowered and injured a lot."

He taught Physical Education as his day job.

The sprightly veteran of coaching moved to Australia in the 1970s, where his inclination to teach and coach found a natural home on the other side of the world. 

He soon worked at the AIS (Australian Institute of Sport) where he helped fine-tune many of Australia’s future Golden Generation of Premier League and European talent. 

And he’s still working in the talent development background to help Australia’s capital city and the ACT in the event their A-League bid is greenlit. 

“It’s very difficult for ACT players to get into an A-League environment without a local A-League club. 

“A lot go to Sydney and Melbourne to play NPL which is a longer season compared to here.

”It’s not enough football. And for NYL, playing eight games isn’t enough either," he points, somewhat frustrated. 

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Smith cites the 40-games plus seasons he had back in England as an example of the need to play more football. 

And he sympathizes with the best talent in Canberra and surrounding areas. 

“If I’m going to progress, I’ve got to get out of Canberra!

"That’s the view of the best young talent here," Smith says. 

"Plus, an A-League club will also inspire local players."